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[Python-Dev] New hash algorithms: SHA3, SHAKE, BLAKE2, truncated SHA512

[Python-Dev] New hash algorithms: SHA3, SHAKE, BLAKE2, truncated SHA512Chris Barker chris.barker at noaa.gov
Fri May 27 12:41:11 EDT 2016
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 9:35 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:

> > So if ( and that's a big if) it's possible to anticipate what will be
> > in widespread use in a couple years, getting it in now would be a good
> > thing.
>
> You cut away the important part of what I said:
> "The current patch is 1.2MB for SHA-3 - that's pretty heavy for
> just a few hash functions, ..."
>
> If people want to use the hashes earlier, this is already possible
> via a separate package, so we're not delaying their use.
>

That's true for ANY addition to the stdlib -- it could always be made
available in a third party lib. (unless you want to use it in another part
of the stdlib...)


> It is clear that SHA-3 will get more traction in coming years (*),
> but I'm pretty sure that OpenSSL will have good implementations by
> the time people will actively start using the new hash algorithm
> and then hashlib will automatically make that available (hashlib
> uses the OpenSSL EVP abstraction, so will be able to use any
> new algorithms added to OpenSSL).
>
> However, if we add the reference implementation now, we'd then be
> left with 1.2MB unnecessary code in the stdlib.
>

I'm probably showing my ignorance here, but couldn't we swap in the OpenSSL
implementation when that becomes available?

-CHB


(*) People are just now starting to move from SHA-1 to SHA-2
> and SHA-2 was standardized in 2001. Python received SHA-2 support
> in 2006. So there's plenty of time to decide :-)


can't deny the history, nor the inertia -- but that doesn't make it a good
thing...


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