On 21/06/2010 22:12, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >> If OS X is a supported and important platform for Python then fixing all >> problems that it reveals (or being willing to) should definitely not be >> a pre-requisite of providing a buildbot (which is already a service to >> the Python developer community). Fixing bugs / failures revealed by >> Bill's buildbot is not fixing them "for Bill" it is fixing them for >> Python. > > I wish people would stop using the word "supported" when they talk > about free software. *No* system is "supported" by Python - not even > in the sense "we strive to pass the test suite". "We" don't. > Well, for better or for worse I think "we" do. We certainly *strive* to support these platforms and having the buildbots is a big part of this. > Now, one may argue whether failing buildbots should be an > unconditional reason to defer the release. I personally would say > "no", despite what some PEP may say. People proposing that a release > is postponed typically hope that somebody gets frustrated enough to > step up and fix the bug, just so that the software gets released. > > Instead, I would propose that the only way to delay a release is by > proposing to take some specific action to remedy the situation that > should cause the delay. Otherwise, releasing is at the discretion of > the release manager, who has the ultimate say to whether the problem > is important or not. > I would agree with leaving it to the discretion of the release manager and we should aim for rather than hard require all stable buildbots to be green. I would still *expect* that a release manager would look at the stable buildbots before cutting a release. > As for OSX, it seems that the only test that is failing is the ctypes > test suite, and there only a single test. I don't think this is > sufficient reason to block the release. > Bill listed several other failures he saw on the buildbots and I see the same set, plus test_posix. All the best, Michael > Regards, > Martin -- http://www.ironpythoninaction.com/ http://www.voidspace.org.uk/blog READ CAREFULLY. By accepting and reading this email you agree, on behalf of your employer, to release me from all obligations and waivers arising from any and all NON-NEGOTIATED agreements, licenses, terms-of-service, shrinkwrap, clickwrap, browsewrap, confidentiality, non-disclosure, non-compete and acceptable use policies (”BOGUS AGREEMENTS”) that I have entered into with your employer, its partners, licensors, agents and assigns, in perpetuity, without prejudice to my ongoing rights and privileges. You further represent that you have the authority to release me from any BOGUS AGREEMENTS on behalf of your employer.
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