Okay, last follow up on this and then I'm going to bed. :) On Jan 20, 2010, at 03:29 PM, David Lyon wrote: >> On Jan 19, 2010, at 08:09 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: >> >> I'd be surprised if any of the big 3 DVCS developers would actually /want/ >> their stuff in the stdlib. > >If they ask, they'll get told they're motorbike-shedding. "It's better >if their users ask". So here I am as a user doing things the 'right' >way. Actually, you're not. It's not up to the Python community to initiate this. If you really want this, you should engage with the relevant DVCS communities and push them to request it. >Side benefits are that it can update everything else along >with it at the same time. User Apps, Packages, whatever. I get that. Heck, I still run one Gentoo server which I think is as close to the edge you're describing as I'm comfortable with. It's all great until the wheels come off and then it can take *days* to get a functioning system again. The big difference is that I rely on my DVCS to keep one small thing, or a few variants of the same thing, all sane. But I rely on my distribution vendor to keep a thousand complex, interdependent, interacting, sometimes conflicting things sane and working. >Point : The fact that SCMs are two way is great in > a production environment. No packaging solution > can come close. Try talking with some hard-core operations guys, the folks with the keys to the data centers, who work tireless, insanely hours keeping incredibly complex systems running with very little downtime. I think you'd get a different perspective to put it mildly. :) to-sleep-perchance-to-dream-ly y'rs, -Barry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 835 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/attachments/20100119/0def1cc9/attachment-0005.pgp>
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