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[Python-Dev] conceptual clarity

[Python-Dev] conceptual clarityR. David Murray rdmurray at bitdance.com
Thu Sep 17 20:04:11 CEST 2009
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 at 10:38, Peter Moody wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:32 AM, R. David Murray <rdmurray at bitdance.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 at 09:16, Peter Moody wrote:
>>>
>>> I mentioned before that IPy's insistence on receiving masked out
>>> networks was one of the main reasons I wrote ipaddr to begin with.
>>> Having ipaddr mimic this behavior would make it significantly less
>>> useful. Removing functionality in the name of avoiding confusion
>>> doesn't make sense when the same confusion can be alleviated w/o the
>>> loss.
>>
>> We're suggesting moving that functionality (accepting a non-masked IP
>> plus netmask and returning the corresponding Network object) into
>> a different constructor, not eliminating the functionality.
>
> Do you mean a new constructor function, ala IPAddress and IPNetwork
> (so the current classes remain largely the same and the various
> constructors enforce certain restrictions) or something else?
>
> At this point, I'm getting confused with the intermingling of class
> and constructor names.

I mean, eg, IPv4Network.fromHostIP('192.168.1.1/24').

Or some such name.

Having another constructor that took an IPv4Address object and a mask
would probably be a good idea as well.  These could be exposed as
appropriately named module level functions instead/as well, of course.

I would have IPv4Address itself be strict, and thus the new constructors
would compute the network address and call the regular IPv4Address
constructor.(*)

--David

(*) If that's the part you object to (not recording the input IP
in the Network object), then clearly you see a need to have an
AddressWithMask object of _some_ sort....
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