stelios> Yes but in order to fall into a Liskov Violation, one will have stelios> to use extreme OOP features (as I understand from the ongoing stelios> discussion for which, honestly, I understand nothing:). The first example here: http://www.compulink.co.uk/~querrid/STANDARD/lsp.htm Looks pretty un-extreme to me. It may not be detectable without the pep 246 stuff, but I suspect it's pretty common. Skip
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